Over the next 5 weeks, students in Mrs. Fong's and Mrs. Henry's sophomore English classes will be reading and discussing major theme topics in Shakespeare's Othello. At the same time, the students will be reading one of several contemporary young adult novels that contain themes similar with those in the play.
This blog is being set up as a cross-class discussion board for the next month. If you use the blog effectively, you should be able to get some help with understanding both the play and your novel. This will produce a better essay at the end of the unit.
During the next 5 weeks, you will be expected to make at least 10 posts to the blog:
- Five of the posts will be either questions or comments about how the literary features (diction, symbol, characterization, or imagery) help to reveal the theme topic you are studying in your YA novel. See the blog postings below and post your comments there.
- Five additional posts will be either questions or comments about how the literary features (diction, symbol, characterization, or imagery) help to reveal the same theme topic in the play, Othello. Those posts will be made in the comment section of this post.
- You must post at least once per week. I will not give full credit if all 10 posts are made on the same day, or in the same week. Be sure to blog throughout the unit.
- You may earn bonus points after the required 10 posts if the additional postings demonstrate insightful thinking.
- You may blog about the other YA books being read, if you have read one of them before. This will count in the bonus blog category.
Below you will find indvidual postings for each of the Othello-themed YA novels being read.
319 comments:
1 – 200 of 319 Newer› Newest»RantisidHenry2
In the novel, "Othello," how does the literary feature, diction, help reveal the theme topic of gender and power?
How does dition and characterization show jealousy?
DeeJHenry7
how did Iago manipulates all the character in "Othello" that no one even notice it?
and how does Iago show his hatred to Othello??
In the play "Othello", what can be a symbol for the theme gender and power?
uluavelhenry2
In "Othello" how is gender and power that important in the novel?
And if Othello was to chose Iago instead of Cassio, would things alot different?
DeeJHenry7
-The symbol for desdemona could be the "treasure" or "jewel" it shows that female in those days are very important even though the male dont show it; but, in those days mens are very powerful because of their role.
-The symbol for othello could be "ancient" it shows that people respect othello by calling then ancient even though othello is an outsider.
In, "Othello" how does diction show the theme topic "the outsider".
In Othello, how does imagery and diction show the characters' tragic flaws?
mirandapHenry3
in the novel,"othello",how does diction,imagery,help reveal of being an outsider?
In othello i like how shakespeare describeiago with great details and i like how the novel have lots of imagery that base on othello
DeeJHenry7
kimjhenry2, can you give exact quotes how shakespeare describes Iago??
lujanahenry2:
in othello, how does shakespere use diction because the writing style is very, very different from today? and how does shakespere use imagery because im still confused on what imagery is?
harbortahenry2
well, the diction that Othello was written in is that of the shakespearean writing style. so i'm not completely honest on what you're question is asking. However, about imagery, from what i understand it is how the author describes setting and how it instills images in your head. Although, i could be wrong, but that's what i suspect that imagery is.
This is for Alex and Ashlee:
With Shakespeare, imagery is closely tied with symbols and diction. Find the type of words that are consistently used in describing each of the characters. When others talk about Othello, instead of calling him by name, they often use animal names and descriptions,or various names for the color black, or names of uncivilized groups. Roderigo calls him "the Thick-lips" while Iago calls him " old black ram" and Brabantio calls him "thief" and "sooty bosom". All of these phrases allow the reader to create a picture of Othello's physical appearance and character as others perceive it. The connotations of the words in these phrases are negative. (Here is dictionary.com's explanation of connotation: the associated or secondary meaning of a word or expression in addition to its explicit or primary meaning: A possible connotation of “home” is “a place of warmth, comfort, and affection.” ) Look to those secondary meanings to create the images that Shakespeare wanted you to create.
Is there any especific quote that reveals gender and power ? i can't seem to find any.
fifitavhenry2
Answer to Kristinas question; there actually is a bunch of jealousy shown in the diction within the first act. You've got to kind of dig for them. Well examples would be when Iago tells Roderigo and Roderigo gets angry from being jealous. Roderigo is jealous of the Moor because he has married Desdemona, Iago is jealous of Cassio because of his higher power. Its all there in the book.
In the novel how does Iagos jealousy reveal diction an imagery?
In the play, Othello is called "The Moor of Venice. But i learned that the "Moors" were the guys that fought in the Crusades and were supposed to be Arabic. So, why is othello called "The Moor of Venice"?
lavulonhenry2
In the novel how does diction, characterization, or imagery show the jealousy/hatred of Iago to Othello? In addition, how and why didn't people around capture Iago's plan?
Trinidadahenry2
In the play "Othello", what can be a symbol for the theme gender and power?
Answer: Desdemona speaks to her father. Her speech shows her thoughtfulness and tells her whatever Othello said was true, this is Because Desdemona is brave enough to stand up to her father. This is important : “she rejects him in public, these words also establish for the audience her courage and her strength of conviction.”
My noble father,
I do perceive here a divided duty.
To you I am bound for life and education.
My life and education both do learn me
How to respect you. You are the lord of my duty,
I am hitherto your daughter. But here’s my husband,
And so much duty as my mother showed
To you, preferring you before your father,
So much I challenge that I may profess
Due to the Moor my lord. (I.iii.179–188)
DeeJHenry7
how did Iago manipulates all the character in "Othello" that no one even notice it?
- Iago talked to people to do something for him. No one noticed it because that's how bad guys roll, they tend to be sneaky. yadada.
What the heck does this quote mean? "Put out the light, and then put out the light."(act5, scene2, line 7) Some one help its confusing me!
palafoxmhenry3
what is a tragic flaw in othello that can help me with imagery.
DeeJHenry7
Does Cassio really likes Desdemona?
does he show motives that Iago takes advantage?
For Brandon Ching's question: the quotes means "Put out the light of the candle, and then put out the light of her heart." Othello is talking about the candle the first time but he's talking about Desdemona's heart the second time.
fifitavhenry2
How is there imagery in the novel when its mainly diction? Characters are speaking to each other and in the novel it doesn't portray what someone is thinking. I mean there isn't a narrator. So how are the literary features displayed?
In Othello how does the literary feature characterization reveal the theme topic tragic flaw?
DeeJHenry7
answers to matt's question: the characterization on tragic flaw could be "Honest Iago" because at first we all know he was honest but then he was evil. It shows that Iago is not honest and he is evil
In Act 2, How does diction show gender and power? Are there any symbols?
In act 2 is a there a symbol in the book so far? I cant find one.
To Kristina,
How about the storm at the beginning of the act?
Reading Othelo i can see outsider and manipulation. But i dont see Diction. But as Vika said "You've got to kind of dig for them. Well examples would be when Iago tells Roderigo and Roderigo gets angry from being jealous. Roderigo is jealous of the Moor because he has married Desdemona, Iago is jealous of Cassio because of his higher power".And i do beleive that right.
What wappens to Iago? All the book says is- Iago stabs Emilia, she dies, and Iago exits the stage. So what do you think happend to Iago next?
DeeJHenry7
asnwer to brandon's question: i think he's in jail but you dont need to worry about that becuase were still in act 2.
pauluslhenry2
i dont really understand act 2 of othello. where are they? and could you say that desdemonas tragic flaw is that she is a free thinker and she is independent? is there any good quotes in act two? help?
kimjhenry2
I understand little bit of act 2 twoand it show how roderigo is upset that ohtlle took his future wife so i feel bad for him . I realy can connect my theme to my ya novel and it is not hard to do . I hope ohtello find out what will igao do.
How is Iago able to trick everyone into things and then uses them as a tool.
RantisidHenry2
According to Lujan's question, Shakespeare uses diction by describing in his own special words and language what the chacracters are trying to say to one another. Shakespeare uses imagery so that the audience can understand more clearly on what the characters are saying. Imagery are words that create pictures in your mind. For example, the dark, grey clouds were soon hovering over the sun. You can picture these words in your mind to understand what this sentence means. I hope this can help out somehow with your questions.
lujanahenry2:
thanks dina for the help! i can barely find any imagery throughout othello? i can't seem to find any at all because everything seems like imagery to me since everything is old english.
DeeJHenry7
In act 2, How does Iago manipulates and exploits Roderigo, Cassio, and Othello? im a bit confused because we didnt read "Othello" in class.
To John Dee's question: In act 2, Iago first tells Roderigo that Desdemona is in love with Cassio and Iago tells Roderigo to start a fight with him. On the other hand, Iago knows Cassio is not much of a drinker so he offers Cassio wine. Cassio got really drunk and He started a fight with Montano and Roderigo and Othello saw it. Othello dismisses Cassio as his Lieutenant.
i have a question who ha more power Iago of Othello?
I was wondering in act two what are some gender and power themes. I can't wait to read more.
DeeJHenry7
answer to john kim's question: I think that Iago has alot of power because he manipulates everyone.On the other hand, Othello is powerful in battles and sieges.
To answer kimjhenry2's question:
I think it all depends on what kind of power your talking about. Iago definitely has more power when it comes to manipulating people, but Othello has shown power in fights. Othello's power is displayed in the first Act when he is talking to the Duke and he gets for what he asks, even being a Moor.
To kimjhenry2,
If you were looking for some gender and power themes, i think Desdemona is a good example. She is an independent women and she stands up for herself when Iago was talking about women. Iago judges women in a bad way but Desdemona didn't agree with him, and she has no fear speaking up her mind.
Why does always man has all the power? Why not woman has same amont of power of man? I am sure woman is same useful as man and some are even stronger than man. why man is much important than woman?
I have one thing that I don't understand in the play. Why does none of Othello or Roderigo does not beware Igao? From my point of view, no one can be trust in the world, not even your family, because you never know what they will do to you. However, Othello and Roderigo think that Iago can be trust, and they don't beware him. Why?
DeeJHenry7
answer to lovhenry2: back then man was very powerful than women but then shakespeare shows us how women become powerful by using Desdemona's character
uumm..i really dont understand who is suspicious of who?i know iago is suspicious of othello because of the rumors he heard,but i really dont understand who else is suspicious or jealous?
harbortahenry2
I know that Desdemona and Othello love eachother very much. Desdemona loves Othello because of the things he went through in his life and his many interesting stories of hardship and other experiences he'd undergone. I also know that Othello loves Desdemona because she pities the struggles he overcame. However, I'd like to know if that was the only source that contributed to the forming of the deep love that they have for one another? Is that the only thing that made them love each other? I'm wondering because it doesn't sound like a very strong foundation to base their love upon. In a way, it seems rather naive to me. Could someone please clear this up for me? thanks.
fifitavhenry2
does cassio really love Desdemona in more then one way? It seems by the way Cassio describes Desdemona that he really is into her. hmmm....
As of right now we can see that people are jealous of one another. What examples in the book would prove this?
In act 2 in Othell, wat symbols or diction is there for outsider?
RantisidHenry2
To: DeeJHenry7
Answer: I don't think Cassio likes Desdemona, but is in love with Bianca. Iago is telling Othello that Cassio does like his wife, but really he doesn't. Ever since Othello told Cassio that he is no longer to be his officer, Iago gave the idea to Cassio to beg Desdemona to tell her husband to give him another chance. This is how Iago can get revenge on Cassio.
In act 3, if the handkerchief is a symbol; What does it symbloize?
To: santillanrhenry2
When Iago says, "Even now, now, very now, an old balck ram" (1.1.86). This shows that Iago is calling Othello names of animals/ rasism. The author choose this so he can show how Othello is an outsider and how Iago is jealous by calling him bad names. Iago is jealous of Othello since he is top of the military and gets all the respect that Iago wnats for himself.
lujanahenry2:
for khourykhenry7:
the handkerchief symbolizes in my opinion jealousy. when iago tells othello about cassio and desdemona's "affair" and how cassio used desdemona's handkerchief, othello was angry and jealous because the handkerchief was the first present that othello got desdemona. and othello also thought that cassio was his friend and someone he could trust and now othello believes that cassio decieved him into getting closer to desdemona
this is trinidadahenry2:
gender and power are shown in act 2 when iago is joking about women and every other male jumps in to share and also desdemona jumps in joking along. also when desdemona calls othello "my lord". it shows how much more men were more powerful in their relationships with their wives. and also in how iago treats his wife. he does not give her any affection and she feels low and jealous of others.
what is the point of Iago killing Cassio is he going to get closer to othello or what
In response to Partidamhenry3: Iago kills Cassio beacuse Iago made a promise to Othello that he would get rid of Cassio within 3 days. See in the book, Iago feeds a bunch of "junk" into Othello's mind about Cassio fooling around with Desdemona, when in reality it was all because of the hankerchief that Othello Gave to Desdemona.
Desdemona drops the hanky by accident when she tried to wipe Othello's forehead , Emilia picks it up, gives it to Iago, Iago puts it in Cassio's room, Cassio finds the hanky and decides "hey, it's so beautiful why not give it to Bianca"(Cassio's lover), bianca doesn't want it beacuse it smells like white girl and that all leads to Cassio going to speak with iago about lady problems, while they speak Othello is hiding listening to the conversation and asumes that the lady Cassio is talking about is desdemona(beacuse of what Iago told him). Othello believes now that Cassio is really with desdemona and tells iago to go kill him.
DeeJHenry7
Well, we all know that in Act 3 Cassio has a lover named Bianca but then why does Cassio show some motives that he likes Desdemona. For example, Cassio took Desdemona hand and comfort her.
uluavelhenry2
If Desdemoina's father is Brabantio and he's powerful in a way... why does it seem like Othello is more powerful than Desdemona still? Even though her father is powerful?
uluavelhenry2
......also why couldn't Othello just ask Cassio about what is going on since he's supposably a good leader [esp. in battles, which makes me think he's smart, b/c he always accomplish his work]
Trinidadahenry2
THE CLOWN
Did you guys notice that the clown wasn’t in the movie? But why? Well it’s maybe because he wasn’t that important. However I did find some things about the clown I went on sparknotes.com
“Clown - Othello’s servant. Although the clown appears only in two short scenes, his appearances reflect and distort the action and words of the main plots: his puns on the word “lie” in Act III, scene IV, for example, anticipate Othello’s confusion of two meanings of that word in Act IV, scene i.”
The clown basically just stresses the word lie. It kind of foreshadows what; Othello will be confused with the same word in Act IV, scene i.
This link will go to the book if you want to see the translations. If interested in seeing what the cl0wn is saying go to the link.
http://nfs.sparknotes.com/othello/page_170.epl
trinidadahenry2
To : DeeJHenry7
Well, we all know that in Act 3 Cassio has a lover named Bianca but then why does Cassio show some motives that he likes Desdemona. For example, Cassio took Desdemona hand and comfort her.
However here are character analysis for Michael Cassio an Bianca.
Michael Cassio - Othello’s lieutenant. Cassio is a young and inexperienced soldier, whose high position is much resented by Iago. Truly devoted to Othello, Cassio is extremely ashamed after being implicated in a drunken brawl on Cyprus and losing his place as lieutenant. Iago uses Casio’s youth, good looks, and friendship with Desdemona to play on Othello’s insecurities about Desdemona’s fidelity.
Bianca - A courtesan, or prostitute, in Cyprus. Bianca’s favorite customer is Cassio, who teases her with promises of marriage.
This answers the question who is Bianca.
palafoxmhenry3
How does diction show tragic flaws Othello and how is it effecting Othello?
Is cassio really in love with desdemona in secret and not even desdemona knows. Why does bianca reject the handkerchief from cassio.
gaciaehenry2
resonce to: uluavelhenry2
only because her father is powerful doesnt really mean she had to be powerful. she could have gotten the soft side from her mother, their are plenty of possibilities. she is probably too in love with othello to realize that she has to be more powerful against him, instead of taking whatever othello gives her.
To: Patrick M.
Biana doesn't reject the handkerchirf, she thinks that Cassio is cheating on her with another women beacuse she smells a womens prefume on the handkerchief.
I like how iago is trivking othello that her wiife is cheating on him. I now understadn how iago wants revange and i know he is a ewveil person. I feel sad for othello because he is being comtrol by iago.
fabrischenry2
does othello realize that iago is tricking him into thinking that his wife is cheating on him? im not really sure if he knows it or doesnt know because in the movie othello was being volent with iago.
In act 3 who is jealous of who?i know that Othello is jealous that Desdemona is having an affair with Cassio, but is he jealous at that or jealous because he can't believe Desdemona is actually picking Cassio over him?
Oh and why is Emila jealous of Desdemona and Othello?is it because Othello treats Desdemona really nice and always shows his affection, while on the other hand Iago just gives her pecks on the lips from time to time?Or becasue she hates the Moor too?
This is for Chelsea:
I think he was suspicious of him in the beginning but then once Iago showed him the "proof" he wanted then he realized that he was telling the truth!an him using violence is a way of him expressing his feelings towards his problems!
Why doesn't Othello just deal with his problem himself instead of telling Iago to?is it because he's scared?
i didnt understand all of act three its kind of confusing can someone explain
quintanarchenry7
Im having lots of trouble finding any symbols that relate to the theme topic of the outsider...can somebody help me?
Does anyone know what the clown is?or who thclown is and whats his significance? Also any good characterizations sbout sny of the characters besides Iago?
wheelerkHenry2
what is your opinion on the quote by Emilia," ... They are all but stomachs, and we all but food;/ to eat us hungerly, and when they are full,/They belch us." Do you agree or disagree? What does this say about gender/power?
trinidadahenry2
Question: Why doesn't Othello just deal with his problem himself instead of telling Iago to? Is it because he's scared?
Answer: I believe that Othello didn’t have any problems until Iago starts to manipulate him. Therefore Othello goes to iago because Othello has gained his trust. Othello does not ask for help but he does ask for proof. See the difference? Proof and help were proof may help Othello but that’s not what he was asking for. Othello is not asking for help but asking for proof. Othello is not scared; I don’t think that he would be scared of Cassio or Desdemona.
WheelerKHenry2
do you think it was right for Emilia to take the hankerchief? (Keep in mind that this was a time where women did what their husbands told them to do.) Why does this reveal abuse in power not only for men, but for women as well?
WheelerKHenry2
Question:Oh and why is Emila jealous of Desdemona and Othello?is it because Othello treats Desdemona really nice and always shows his affection, while on the other hand Iago just gives her pecks on the lips from time to time?Or becasue she hates the Moor too?
Answer: i don't think that emilia hates the moor i think she just wishes that her own husabnd could be as loving and caring like othello in stead of always being in the defense of war/offense aswell. also that shes tired of having to earn some affection where she deserves it reguardless...
WheelerKHenry2
how is the hankerchief a deeper symbol than just love?
trinidadahenry2
to :fifitavhenry2
Question: Also any good characterizations about any of the characters besides Iago?
Answer: Look at Othello again when he starts doubting himself and thinking that he’s the reason why “Cassio and Desdemona are in a secret relationship. This shows a lot about Othello’s character. If you came to the extra credit movie yesterday you can see that Othello starts to imagine that Cassio and Desdemona are cheating . ex: Othello see Cassio kisses Desdemona. And in the movie it also showed how Othello would have nightmares about cassio.
Question: Does anyone know what the clown is? or who the clown is and what’s his significance?
Answer: I have posted a blog about this already but here it is again.
THE CLOWN
Did you guys notice that the clown wasn’t in the movie? But why? Well it’s maybe because he wasn’t that important. However I did find some things about the clown I went on sparknotes.com
“Clown - Othello’s servant. Although the clown appears only in two short scenes, his appearances reflect and distort the action and words of the main plots: his puns on the word “lie” in Act III, scene IV, for example, anticipate Othello’s confusion of two meanings of that word in Act IV, scene i.”
The clown basically just stresses the word lie. It kind of foreshadows what; Othello will be confused with the same word in Act IV, scene i.
trinidadahenry2
question:the hankerchief a deeper symbol than just love?
answer: “The handkerchief symbolizes different things to different characters. Since the handkerchief was the first gift Desdemona received from Othello, she keeps it about her constantly as a symbol of Othello’s love. Iago manipulates the handkerchief so that Othello comes to see it as a symbol of Desdemona herself—her faith and chastity. By taking possession of it, he is able to convert it into evidence of her infidelity. But the handkerchief’s importance to Iago and Desdemona derives from its importance to Othello himself. He tells Desdemona that it was woven by a 200-year-old sibyl, or female prophet, using silk from sacred worms and dye extracted from the hearts of mummified virgins. Othello claims that his mother used it to keep his father faithful to her, so, to him, the handkerchief represents marital fidelity. The pattern of strawberries (dyed with virgins’ blood) on a white background strongly suggests the bloodstains left on the sheets on a virgin’s wedding night, so the handkerchief implicitly suggests a guarantee of virginity as well as fidelity.”
* This is all from sparknotes it really helps!!!
what's going to happen to Iago after everything is said and done?
to wheelerKHenry2: on act 3, lines 332-334, Iago says "trifles as light as air are to the jealous confirmations as strong as proofs of Holy Writ."
this means that if the person is jealous and suspicious enough, something of trivial significance (the handkerchief) can confirm suspicions with proof stronger than the bible.
this handkerchief proves symbolize much more than love. this proves to be the final straw with which will cause Othello to kill Desdemona, silly.
Okay if the CLOWN streeses lie why cant Othello see it or avoid it? I understand what you are saying April, but im kind of still lost?
For wheelerkHenry2's question:
what is your opinion on the quote by Emilia," ... They are all but stomachs, and we all but food;/ to eat us hungerly, and when they are full,/They belch us." Do you agree or disagree? What does this say about gender/power?
Answer: This is saying that "Men are all the same, but it takes longer than a year or two to see how bad they are. They're like stomachs and we're just the food. They eat us up hungrily, and when they're full, they vomit us up." It shows that men takes advantage of women at the time and women couldn't do anything about it.
Question: Why doesn't Othello just deal with his problem himself instead of telling Iago to? Is it because he's scared?
Othello just doesnt know if he should believe what Iago is telling him. He is asking Iago for proof of Desdemona's infidelity so he can come to one conclusion instead of being in a state of confusion.
Blogger craftdhenry3 said...
what's going to happen to Iago after everything is said and done?
first of all Mr. Craft, What do you mean by "after everything is said and done?" do you mean after the whole play is done?
LavuloNHenry2
In the novel "Kindred" by Octavia Butler how does the literary feature of characterization and diction change Rufus' character from time to time as he gets older?
AmbraMHenry3
My question is: What are your opinions of Iago's motives? Do you think they are just reasons for how Iago is manipulating everybody?
And to CraftDhenry3
If you mean the end of the play by, "after everything is said and done?" I think Iago will get away with everything that he has done. He will take Othello's position because othello will be too grief stricten, and also in jail for the murder of Desdemona, so will be unable to continue. Cassio's murder by Iago will also be blamed on othello because that is what othello ordered Iago to do because he believed that Cassio and Desdemona were having an affair.
For gontenasj:
I get what your saying, but when Iago does show him proof he doesn't act to the problem himself.He instead tells Iago to kill Cassio! Since you said he needed proof to then act himself, why doesnt he act to it once he seen the proof?Why isnt he doing the killing himself, instead of Iago?
For Craft:
I agree with AmbraM that Iago will get his way and away with everything, but i think that Othello will end up killing himself once he finds out that it was all Iago!I think he will feel guilty for killing Cassio and Desdemona that he might end up commiting suicide!At the end Iago will get his way and get away with evrything!
In act 4 why does desdamonas cousin or what ever he is bring the letter to othello.
In Act 4, Desdemona's cousin brings the letter to Othello that tells him to return to Venice. Desdemona thinks it is her father summoning Othello home and that's what's bothering Othello, but the letter has nothing to do with that.
Quintanarchenry7
Why would Othello tell Iago to kill Cassio? Isn't he a "perfect" soldier? And would the letter that Desdemona's cousin gave Othello be a symbol?
DeeJHenry7
In Act 4, Emilia was talking to Othello about Desdemona. My question was that why did Emilia didnt tell that she got the handkerchief and give to Iago?
In act IV why does Othello go on every word that Iago says to him?
RantisidHenry2
To:DeeJHenry7
In Act 4, Emilia was talking to Othello about Desdemona. My question was that why did Emilia didnt tell that she got the handkerchief and give to Iago?
You are right, Emilia was talking to Othello about Desdemona, but Emilia does not dare tell Othello that she had the handkerchief and gave it to Iago. This is because, if Emilia was to tell Othello of this then Emilia would have ruined her husband's reputation, explaining that he is full of lies, and is an untrustworthy man. Othello and most of the other men would take this seriously since he has caused all this trouble between many people and will probably make Iago suffer for what he has done!
wheelerkhenry2
IF iago is the second in command now..... why does he keep manipulating everyone?wasn't that is sole purpose for his acts?
wheelerkhenry2
question:In act IV why does Othello go on every word that Iago says to him?
answer:well because iago has "proof" that cassio and desdemona are having an affair. Plus noone else is speaking against iago.And iago shows cassio has the handkercheif and claims desdemona gave it to him.
Does othello belivie that cassio talks about desdemona with iago even though that bianca comes in to the room why dosent he see that it is bianca cassio is talking about.
in act 4 of "Othello", othello is angered because he can't believe if desdemona is really cheating on him or not. my question is, was it in iago's plan of manipulation that othello would strike desdemona
and call her a whore?
lujanahenry2:
also did iago know othello would turn violent..or was he not execting it to happen?
To answer Lujan's question Iago says that he is to coward to kill anyone besides in battle so im guessing he wanted to kill them or kill them inside.
How did Cassio's conversation with Iago about Bianca show Cassio's judgments on women?
I like how Roderigo is more confident in act 4 and i was surprise that he stood up in front of Iago. That was cool to see and roderigo personality change that is so great. I wounder what will happen to him at the end of the play?
Quintanarchenry7
Would Iago be considered an outsider? and im wondering what would Iago have done if Othello didn't believe his lies? Would he have done anything different? And im sure Iago knew how Othello would act cause lately he seems more happy as the play moves on.
DeeJHenry7
Question: Would Iago be considered an outsider? and im wondering what would Iago have done if Othello didn't believe his lies? Would he have done anything different? And im sure Iago knew how Othello would act cause lately he seems more happy as the play moves on.
Answer: Iago could be an outsider because he's the only one that has an evil plan. Iago probably kill himself because he could consider it as failure and could ruined his reputation. Iago will be happy because all his plans are going accordingly.
Do you think there is a deeper reason to Iago's behavior? I mean, I don't think that just because he didn't get the promotion, that he would go this detailed into a plot to ruin the lives of everyone around him. Is there another reason, or is Iago just an evil person who truely doesn't care about others?
To tukuafulhenry2
For gontenasj:
I get what your saying, but when Iago does show him proof he doesn't act to the problem himself.He instead tells Iago to kill Cassio! Since you said he needed proof to then act himself, why doesnt he act to it once he seen the proof?Why isnt he doing the killing himself, instead of Iago?
Well the way I see it, I think Othello doesn’t want to kill cassio himself because of his rank as a well ranked, respected army general. So (from what I think) he would want someone who is of lower rank to him to do his dirty work.
RantisidHenry2
For what reason did Othello slap Desdemona, across her face, in public which brought humiliation?
In act 3, I believe that Iago is becoming to SEEM less and less evil. The reason I believe Iago is becoming to have the illusion that he is not evil is because his plan is beginning to come into action. Iago is getting the satisfaction of seeing Othello jealous (just as Iago planned) and is feeling no remorse for what he has done to corrupt Othello and Desdemona's relationship.
for RantisidHenry2
For what reason did Othello slap Desdemona, across her face, in public which brought humiliation?
I believe that Othello slapped Desdemona because he thought that Desdemona was trying to be fake and calling him "my sweet othello" (act 4 scene 1) after she supposedly admitted being happy that cassio was to be appointed governor of Cyprus when Othello was to be moved somewhere else
Why can't Othello just confront Desdemona instead of just hitting her and calling her bad names and making her guess?
wheelerkhenry2
why does emilia become enraged when she finds othello's jealousy? how does this reveal illusion verses reality?
To : tukuafulhenry2
Why can't Othello just confront Desdemona instead of just hitting her and calling her bad names and making her guess?
Answer: Othello can’t confront Desdemona because Othello has a really big ego. He might as well kill Cassio, but he can’t. This is because he’s maybe thinking about his future. For example how might Othello live after killing Cassio with Desdemona knowing? Desdemona might as well think that Othello is crazy and doesn’t trust her. Trust plays a really big role in relationships.
Othello call her bad names because Iago made him believe. He saw the handkerchief.
To: RantisidHenry2
For what reason did Othello slap Desdemona, across her face, in public which brought humiliation?
Answer: Yes Othello did slap Desdemona, across the face in public which caused both of the humiliation. They both show that they have a dysfunctional relationship. Desdemona is humiliated by her husband because it shows that Othello doesn’t trust her or respect her. Othello is humiliated by Desdemona because it shows that he didn’t marry a good wife.
To : feifonongashenry7
Do you think there is a deeper reason to Iago's behavior? I mean, I don't think that just because he didn't get the promotion, that he would go this detailed into a plot to ruin the lives of everyone around him. Is there another reason, or is Iago just an evil person who truly doesn't care about others?
Answer: Yes I do believe that there is a deep reason for Iago behavior. He is willing to take revenge on anyone—Othello, Desdemona, Cassio, Roderigo, even Emilia. He just enjoys the pain and damage he causes. He is also jealous of how much power and control Othello’s has.
Read this it might spoil the ending but it’s very helpful. I got this off http://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/othello/characters.html
“Iago’s murder of Emilia could also stem from the general hatred of women that he displays. Some readers have suggested that Iago’s true, underlying motive for persecuting Othello is his homosexual love for the general. He certainly seems to take great pleasure in preventing Othello from enjoying marital happiness, and he expresses his love for Othello frequently and effusively.
What were some imagary quotes for jealousy and susption in act 4??
garciaehenry2
why does bianca get mad when she realizes that the handkerchief wasnt ment for her, and that it was someone elses??
To:garciaehenry2
why does Bianca get mad when she realizes that the handkerchief wasn’t meant for her, and that it was someone else’s?
Answer: Bianca was mad that it was someone else handkerchief. She thought that Cassio might be cheating on her and lying that he just found it . Cassio promises to marry her but he really isn’t that in love with her. But she doesn’t really know that. Bianca on the other hand is in loved with Cassio.
Quintanarchenry7
Would Iago is considered an outsider? And Im was wondering what would Iago have done if Othello didn't believe his lies? Would he have done anything different? And Im sure Iago knew how Othello would act because lately he seems happier as the play moves on.
Answer: In an away yeah he would but not for acts 4. Iago has his own mind that gets to people. People can’t get in his head because he is such a great villain. And if Othello didn’t belived his lies I belived that it would have to be up to you to write the rest of the book because that’s basically what the whole book is about. I would say that he wouldn’t have done anything different just a few minor changes. Like he would have find another way to manipulate each one of them.
Does anyone have Tragic flaw quotes of act 4?
Comment(For all to think about):
You know, Othello was never said to be african, he was reffered to as a "Black Ram" so he could have been just dark skinned. Also he was called "The Moor of Venice" and the word "Moor" is defined as "Crusaders during the medieval period that were usually Muslims of Islamic Iberian Peninsula and North Africa, who were of Arab or Berber descent."
So mabey Othello was not "Black" just dark skinned. Mabey Shakespeare actually meant for Othello to be a warrior type of man from the Mid-east.
... Interesting huh?... Think about it...
chamorroahenry3
Why doesn't Othello just ask Desdemona for her input on the whole cheating thing that Iago is filling his mind with?
fabrischenry2
this is to ariella's question.
i dont think othello is asking Desdemona if she really cheated on him or if any of that is true because Iago has filled his mind and has made him positivly sure that she cheated on him. also because i think othello now thinks just like Iago, thinking that all women are "whores" which led him to believe that Desdemonda must be a whore and cheated on him.
RantisidHenry2
To: chamorroahenry3
Why doesn't Othello just ask Desdemona for her input on the whole cheating thing that Iago is filling his mind with?
Since Iago has been putting all these bad images about Desdemona having an affair with Cassio, Othello just starts to believe that Iago is just right about everything. Now, Othello is starting to think like Iago believing that all the women are "whores." I think Othello has so much on his mind that he doesn't care what Desdemona will say. When Othello believes in something, nothing will change his mind on that.
MooneyJhenry2
Is the handkerchief the only symbol for illusion and reality?
MooneyJhenry2
I find it strange that after Roderigo confronts Iago, Iago is still able to manipulate him into killing Cassio. This means that Roderigo's flaw is that he's too guilable. Even after he discovers Iago's plan, he still listens to him. He is blinded by his love for Desdamona. He is so desperate that he'll try any possibility to try to win Desdamona
TO: MooneyJhenry2
Is the handkerchief the only symbol for illusion and reality?
i think that handkerchief symbols different things. In the beginning it symbolizes Othello's love to Desdemona, then later in the play it symbloizes Desdemona betraying Othello beacause she lose it.
CastilloDHenry7
to:mooneyjhenry (again)
yes, the hankerchief is a great symbol for illusion and reality. For example, in the beginning it was given to Desdamona purely out of love. But after Emilia stole it Othello views it as a symbol of infidelity and untruthfullness. Plus Iago views the hankercheif as a way to manipulate the characters and make them jealous. So really the hankerchief is a universal symbol for all of the themes.
RantisidHenry2
To: garciaehenry2
why does bianca get mad when she realizes that the handkerchief wasnt ment for her, and that it was someone elses??
Bianca gets mad because first of all why would Cassio even have a handkerchief that was not from his love, but from another woman? Bianca gets mad because Cassio's handkerchief was used on another woman. Bianca is supposed to be special to Cassio and should recieve one that hasn't been touched by another woman.
To: garciaehenry2
why does bianca get mad when she realizes that the handkerchief wasnt ment for her, and that it was someone elses??
Bianca gets mad b/c she smells the handkercheif and it smells like womens prefume, also that Cassio might cheating on her with another women.
RantisidHenry2
Why does Othello slap or strikes Desdemona in front of many people? Has Desdemona say anything that accused Othello in public? What did Desdemona say to make Othello this angry?
fifitavhenry2
what else besides othello and desdemonas love does the hankerchief symbolize?
fabrischenry2
is the song Desdemona kept singing a symbol that maby shes going to die singing that same song just like her mother or just that shes going to die?
To fifitavhenry2
The headkerchief can symbolize the talisman for Desdemona. It can protect Desdemona away from Othello's jealous and anger, but now she lost it, so nothing can protect her anymore.
(It is from my own personal point of view, it could be wrong, but hope it can help you)
To fabrischenry2
The song that Desdemona sang at the end of act IV is the song that her mother sang before she died, so it could be a symbol that Desdemona will die in the next act and foreshadowing what will happen next.
IS IAGO THE ONLY CHARACTER WHO USES THE THEME OF ILLUSION & REALITY(OTHELLO)?
IF NOT, WHO ELSE?
plascenciadhenry3 said...
Wow i can't belevie it that othello slap her her wife and is still mad at her. Dude Iago is mart to come up with this plan.
To fifitavhenry2:
Question: what else besides othello and desdemonas love does the hankerchief symbolize?
Answer: In this act, the handkerchief symbolizes othello's mistrust in desdemona. To othello, the handkerchief represents maritial fidelity. Once desdemona lost the handkerchief, she also lost the trust and love in othello.
paulusl2henry
after othello slaps desdemona, why does he not feel bad about it? everybody who saw it happen tried to say that she didnt deserve it and he should apologize but yet he doesnt. why doesnt he? is he that much of a jerk that he feels the need to slap her in order to feel like she "obeys" him?
DeeJHenry7
I think that back then women are mostly disrespect by men's because women's just stay at home and take care of the childrens
Othello doesnt say sorry to Desdemona because it can lower his reputation by saying sorry to a women.
wheelerkhenry2
question:after othello slaps desdemona, why does he not feel bad about it? everybody who saw it happen tried to say that she didnt deserve it and he should apologize but yet he doesnt. why doesnt he? is he that much of a jerk that he feels the need to slap her in order to feel like she "obeys" him?
answer:well first of all the people in the room were from venice and didn't know about any of the issues of cyprus until Desdemona tells Lodovico her self of their troubles.and he doesn't apologize because he feels he did nothing wrong and that desdemona deserved it and i don't think he did it out of obedience but to show her that he wasn't going to stand for her so-called unfaithfullness.
wheelerkhenry2
iago convinces that roderigo must kill cassio to get desdemona, butafter they fight, how come iago still kills roderigo instead of helping kill cassio since othello order him to do it?
wheelerkhenry2
question:Does Cassio really likes Desdemona?
does he show motives that Iago takes advantage?
answer: it's not that he likes desdemona, it's just that hes a flirtatious gentleman who doesn't really know when he is flirting or not.... the perfect advantage for iago to set up his diabolic scheme.
palafoxmhenry3
Question: what does this quote mean in act 5 scene 2 when Emilia said "Nay, lay thee down and roar,/ For thou hast killed the sweetest innocent/That e'er did lift up eye".
lovhenry2 - The song "Willow" was actually sang by the families maid not Desdemona's mother. The song is actually a foreshadowing of her death though and it is obvious Shakespeare included it to add to the tragedy.
RantisidHenry2
To: palafoxmhenry3
Question: what does this quote mean in act 5 scene 2 when Emilia said "Nay, lay thee down and roar,/ For thou hast killed the sweetest innocent/That e'er did lift up eye".
Emilia is saying that Othello has killed his innocent, honest and sweetest wife and that Othello should "roar," be angry at himslf for killing Desdemona. She is also saying that Othello should have never been mad to Desdemona either.
iago convinces that roderigo must kill cassio to get desdemona, butafter they fight, how come iago still kills roderigo instead of helping kill cassio since othello order him to do it?
Iago kills Roderigo because if Roderigo wins the battle then he's gonna find out that Iago has been stealing from him the entire time. He doesn't kill Cassio because when Roserigo dies then Cassio will fight Othello because he would most likly kill him afterwards because he had relations with Desdemona.
Othello has gone from good and loving to evil and hateful. This shows that the evil in the real world is more powerful than we really think it is. The only way to block these evils is to not be persuaded by anything whose purpose is to take control. If we do this , the world will be left in darkness.
In "Othello" how does diction show the theme topic exploitation and manipulation?
in shattering glass how does symbol reveal the theme topic exploitation and manipulation?? i cant seem to really find any quote on symbol on how rob is manipulating glass
to wheelerkhenry2:
Cassio is the one who killed Roderigo. Iago sliced Cassio's leg from behind after he had stabbed Roderigo. Iago did help, but he didn't actually complete what he said he was going to do. Better said, he didn't go all the way through with it.
paulusl2henry
does Iago have any other tragic flaws besides him being jealous of othello? and him manipulating to everybody to make his plan work?
DeeJHenry7
Why did Othello just kill Desdemona without any information from other people? Why does Othello always depends on Iago's "honesty"?
dmacedohenry3
in the book othello there are many ways that iago is two faced i am wondering why he is like this and what dose he do it for fun or something if i was othello i would not belive anything he say but othello dose not know that Iago is two faced
ArevaloaHenry7:
In what way is manipulation and exploitation shown through diction in the play?
palafoxmhenry3
Question: why did othello decide to kill himself if he found out Desdemona was telling the truth about her and cassio?
Why did Desdemona lie to Emilia that she killed herself?
The reason why desdemona lied to Emilia was because she still loved Othello no matter what he did to her. It showed that she was still mad in love and that even though Othello hurt her and tried to kill her, she still wouldn't do anything to hurt him.
Today i learn what mad being in love can do. It's a strong feeling that everyone gets and all the sacrifices you can do for that person even though they have done you wrong and not giving you the chance to explain. But there's one thing i don't understand why your own companion would kill you for something that he/she heard from someone else say. But i know very well that Othello killing Desdemona was over jealousy, but he was also untrustworthy.
In Response to: palafoxmhenry3
The reson why Othello kills himself is because he is filled with too much grief so he kill himself because he is sad
Im just assuming
chamorroahenry3
to answer palafoxmhenry3's question:
i believe Othello killed himself because he was so overwhelmed by the fact that he did something so drastic over a bunch of lies. he probably couldn't live with himself after finding out how easily manipulated he was by Iago. i think he also felt sorry for himself.
chamorroahenry3
to answer palafoxmhenry3's question:
i believe Othello killed himself because he was so overwhelmed by the fact that he did something so drastic over a bunch of lies. he probably couldn't live with himself after finding out how easily manipulated he was by Iago. i think he also felt sorry for himself.
lujanahenry2:
i don't get in the end of the play if othello ever found out if cassio and desdemona were even together? i don't believe othello did but i'm just assuming.
to paulaslhenry2:
othello doesn't feel bad about slapping desdemona becuase he believes she is cheating on him. no one knows why he did it and before his slap, she said cassio was a good man, it makes othello become more angry since he believes the 'affair'. no one knows why he slapped desdemona like that and iago is the only one that really knows.
RantisidHenry2
To: palafoxmhenry3
Question: why did othello decide to kill himself if he found out Desdemona was telling the truth about her and cassio?
Othello decides to kill himself because he knew he had done a huge mistake and he regrets everything he has done to Desdemona. Othello is so ngry at himself that he couldn't take anything else any longer except to kill himself.
Out of all of the stories and plays that i've read before i have never seen a antagonist so evil like him, Iago should be happy with what he has and not want more, he is very ambitious.
What makes Iago want to hurt Othello badly? Is it just because of the rumors he heard about Othello sleeping with his wife?
The reasons why Iago wanted to hurt Othello so badly is really never expressed throughout the whole play. Yes, one reason COULD be that he thinks Othello slept with his wife, but again, it is never determined.
In response to the post above, that is completely untrue. The reasons for Iago's actions are stated clearly in the book. Iago is compelled to hurt and "destroy" Othello because of his jealousy of Othello's success and position in office. Iago had been in that line of work for years and years and he's paid his dues, yet the high position was still given to Othello whom Iago thought was undeserving and unworthy. This was Iago's motivation for his unjust actions.
I like how Othello turned back into to a kind person when Othello found out that Iago was playing a trick on him. I felt sad for Othello because he lost somethnig that he cared for and now is gone away. I think Iago desever to be jailed because he stab his wife and made someone lost somehting that was precouse as a jewel. I realy want to see the movie agian and maybe read it agian.
dmacedohenry3
in tthe novel othello how dose why dose othello kill him slef?
DeeJHenry7
At the end of the play, Iago didnt confess and he doesnt really tell the characters including Othello the real story and his motives for ruining Othello's life?
I believe Iago doesnt reveal his motives in the end because he is so deluded in his own whirlwind of lies he feels he has done nothing wrong. Or he cant bring himself to speak after his perfect plan that seems untouchable falls to peices because of his unexpected wife's comments.
in the last act on othello how does diction show the theme manipulation adn exploitation? i cant find a qoute for diction that shows my theme
in shattering glass on the last chapter is there any specific quote to show imagery for exploitation and manipulation? it is very difficult for me to find one.
ojakianbHenry2
in the novel, "Othello", how does the symbols in the novel reflect on the theme of the book?
paulusl2henry
for : dmacedohenry3
in tthe novel othello how dose why dose othello kill him slef?
answer: he kills himself b/c of the guilt he has. he didnt believe desdemonda when she constantly denied that she was a whore and that she wasnt faithful to him. and othello was the one who killed her, so he didnt want to have to live with the guilt and memory of killing his innocent wife.
i think Othello should feel like an idiot for letting someone have that much control over him. just the fact that he let his jealousy control him like that proves that he has no control of his emotions or his body. he is just as naive as Desdemona.
To:DeeJHenry7
At the end of the play, Iago didnt confess and he doesnt really tell the characters including Othello the real story and his motives for ruining Othello's life?
Iago doesnt confess at the end of the play b/c he knew his plan worked but he got caught at the end. Near the end of the play Iago doesnt say anything anymore.
LavulonHenry2
In the novel, "Othello" I have realized that hankerchief is a huge symbol towards the theme of jealousy/suspicion. Because of this, the hankerchief symbolizes an individual man's property so of course if somebody else has it in their posession (especially a man) the original owner would greatly become suspicious and very jealous......
LavulonHenry2
In the novel, "Kindred" by Ocatvia Butler I've discovered that books are a symbol of jealousy/suspicion towards Dana. Because of this, both the black slaves and white masters are jealous and suspicious for neither of them back in the days could read whatsover. In a way, they each take it out on Dana...
Arevaloahenry7
In the novel, "Othello" I can see that imagery plays a huge role in Iago's deceptions, you see its through his complex dialog and metaphoric sayings he is able manipulate others into doing what he desires.
Othello is good in battles, but not good enough to trust himself and desdemona.
palafoxmhenry3
What is going to happen to Iago now that they found out he told Othello to kill Desdemona?
AlegrejHenry2
I feel bad for othelloe because i think that he is the outsider in t his story, because he is the only black man in this act, i think this is why he is been manipulated by Iago, the bad thing is that Othello cannot control his emotions, like when he gets mad.
lujanahenry2:
for the study guide, i don't get question #3 for act 5. what is the condradiction when othello says that his father gave his mother the handkerchief, but in the past has said that an egyptian charmer gave it to his mother? is othello untrustworthy of desdemona if he has said that a charmer gave it to his mom and othello then thought is mother was a slut for getting the handkerchief? i think it would explain how iago has manipulated othello so easily and made it as if desdemona was cheating.
Othello is beginning to realize that Iago has been manipulating him all this time. He has killed desdemona and now he cant bring her back to life because of his mistake. Othello should have believed desdemona but he belived Iago more and now he's paying the price.
dmacedoherny3
in the novel othello how dose othello show jealousy?
harbortahenry2
I think that Othello depicts his jealousy through his actions. When he reaches his "jealous" state of mind, he tends to be quick to anger and exerts a lot of rage. He also gets very emotionally distraught very easily; kind of like an "emotional rollercoaster" so to speak. He doesn't necessarily mean a lot of this things he does or says, but his emotions easily get the best of him, just like jealousy.
fabrischenry2
do you think Iago now feels bad for what he caused at the end of the play. for killing his wife and othello also dying with desdemona and roderigo. or is he just worried about whats going to happen to him?
chamorroahenry3
in response to fabrischenry2:
In my personal opinion, I think it's really hard to say how Iago feels.He's been so manipulative throughout the whole story that it'd be hard to really know or even get an idea of how he feels. Like, he says that he's done so much wrong and that he is just going to stop talking but who knows, maybe he isn't geniunly sorry and he's just lying. I also agree with the part where you said that he is probably just worried about himself, that seems like a strong possiblity also.
chamorroahenry3
Does anybody agree with the fact that Desdemona didn't tell Emilia that it was Othello that killed her even though she knew it was totally wrong? Do you think this shows strength or weakness?
^I think it shows her true strength. More like the strength of her love because it takes a strong person to lie about killing yourself because your deeply in love with a person. She also went against all her religious beliefs and died telling a lie for Othello.
DeeJHenry7
responce to: khourykhenry7
At the end of the play, Iago didnt confess and he doesnt really tell the characters including Othello the real story and his motives for ruining Othello's life?
Iago doesnt confess at the end of the play b/c he knew his plan worked but he got caught at the end. Near the end of the play Iago doesnt say anything anymore.
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why does Iago doesnt say nothing?
and i think Iago can be forgiven if he confess and if he is really sorry about this act.
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