Recently, Capuchino teachers took some time during class to talk about our college choice and experiences. I chose the University of Hawaii Manoa Campus, not for its beauty, but for its distance from my high school peers.
We also spent some time going over what colleges are looking for in student requirements. Today, I noticed this article, Schools Balk at Disclosing Offenses, on the front page of the Boston Globe. As you'll discover by reading the article, most colleges now ask a question about both academic and behavioral misconduct. That means if you have been referred to the Dean for misbehavior or violated Cap's Academic Integrity Policy, colleges will expect you to report those infractions.
Read the article and give your feedback about it. Remember to include information from the article to show that you have read it.
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I think its good that there doing this for collages because it gives the kids who are really work hard to show the collages that they are a good person and also makes other kids who try and cheat there way through high school try to work harder
This article, in my perspective, was great showing us what colleges are asking on their applicants for the students. Having more information about students whom are transfering in any college would be better understanding for the National Association for College Admission Counseling and for teachers. Not having any past information about these young adults would more likely be an unsafe college. For example, "less than a quarter of high school disclose information to colleges" said by National Association for College Admission Counseling. There was a shooting at rampage at Virgina Tech. Just like Julie Murgan explained in this article, I wouldn't either be safe in college where other classmates bring knives and guns to school. Overall I think colleges are great that ask for some past information based on academic dishonesty or any criminal behavior.
i think it's good that there looking to see if students are bad which go on the college applicant like it said "And even some high school counselors say students could actually help their chances with a college if they can show how they grew after dealing with a disciplinary problem" some can deal with there problems and some can't while others grow up to be not that bad of a person. it's better now that some colleges are being asked of questions to misbehavior. Some students will feel safer beause they don't have to worry about anything. Some of students grow up and be mature while others don't.
I don't think this is really necessary for them to look at students past because the only thing that matters from the past is there grades. Even though some students has been getting into trouble with the dean or anything, that doesn't mean colleges should think twice about them. They should just be glad those students wants to get into college and that they made it through high school without dropping out or anything. Even though Seung-Hui had killed many people, that doesn't mean everyone is like him. Many people aren't the same actually, so they shouldn't be doing the things they're planning on doing. The only thing they should look at is their academics.
this article shows us what colleges expect from appliers before they even think they can attend the college. its good that colleges should look back to see if the student has done anything wrong or should not be attending the collge, but they shouldn't not let them attend because of an accusation of some sort that was proven false in the past. but in all, colleges should look at students before letting them in and look at their mental health also. the sitaution in virgina was sad, but it shows us that we should look back on the records of students applying so that they know what their decision should be.
I Believe that for this controversy there is no right or wrong asnwer.In a paragraph talking about the incedent with virginia tech and how it could be avoided if they did a behavoiral back persuaded me into thinking its a good thing.Although through further thinking what about student who changed like they were suspended/expelled but learned from there expierence and became a good person,will they be labeled as a trouble maker or will colleges be able to see the good in them.I guess we'll just have to see the diffrent affects on diffrent people to make judgement on this
I think that the colleges have the right to get the students behavioral and misconduct records just to evaluate wheth the student can thrive on campus like the Collede Admissions Officers say in the article. Kelly Walter also states that they are not looking for reasons to reject college admits. But I think it would help save lives such as the William Cho incident, in the article it says that if his counselor would have just given some information about his behavioral issues it would have helped tha college determine whether he is able to live and work in a big environment.
I dont feel as if checking on a students behavior has to do with being accepted to college. A student may have moutinous behavior because he/she doesnt get along with the teacher. But they may get along with all of their other teachers. "Students can even enhance their application if they can show in writing how they grew after getting into trouble," said Peter Jennings. I think this is a good option for students to do. Because if they really care about getting accepted they wil look deep inside to see how they were effected by their actions. I think students who have criminal records should be checked up on because they did something wrong which involves the law.
I THINK THE COLLEGES ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD IN THIS DECISION, BECAUSE ALL THE STUDENTS WHO REALLY WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE HAVE TO BE GOOD IN BOTH STUDENT AND CITIZEN. THE COLLEGES ARE HELPING STUDENTS AS JIM MONTAGUE SAID "I want to help the colleges, but I want to make sure we help our students in any way we can . . ." SO ANY STUDENT HAS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY HELP FROM COLLEGES, IF THE COLLEGES ARE HELPING STUDENTS, STUDENTS SHOULD BE HELPING THE COLLEGES WITH GOOD BEHAVIOR.
This article I think is good for collages because it helps out the collage to know what type of person he/she is before accepting them to their school and to make sure the other kids on the campus are safe from harm.
I think that what the colleges are doing is good. They should be able to see a student's record of delinquency. It helps them make a decision of weather or not that student is fit to go to their college. I think what Boston University is doing it the best way to handle the problem. They will accept a student who has only minor offenses like smoking in the bathroom or skipping class. bUt they will not accept a student who has a criminal history or is academically dishonest. They will not accept a student who has hacked into a school's computer system to cheat on a test. A private school in Pomona refuses students that leave their behavior section of their aplication blank. They will also refuse the student if their cousiler refuses to reveal the information. I think this is totally just. I agree with Julie Moran that I don't want to be in college with people who have brang knives and guns to school. The colleges are looking for what is best for their campus. But I also think that Milton Academy's idea of letting students write about how they grew after getting in trouble is great. That way, if a student has changed their troublesome ways, they can still persue a healthy lifestyle.
I agree with the colleges asking questions about punishment records because it can give a good insight on what the person was like. Although it could have been when they were joking around in highschool and are matured by college but when it is something like emotional problems like mentioned in the article about Cho then that needs to be taken up before the person can enter the school. Asking kids about minor suspension offenses like dress code ..etc, really do not matter as much.
I think this artical is great because i agree on how they should look on highschoolers past, behavior and if they have a criminal record. By looking at this it gives you and idea of how the student is and acts, how they present themselves. The artical says "And even some high school counselors say students could actually help their chances with a college if they can show how they grew after dealing with a disciplinary problem". I think this shows that the student themself have to show that they can over come their mistake to show that they can do it and be succesful.
In my perspective I think that it both is and isn't necessary for colleges to look back on your school records. They do have a right to be concerned about your academic and behavioral inconduct because it's safe and fair for the school and other applicants. In addition, I also disagree because some students make mistakes or change for the better and shouldn't be held back for a mistake that has happened. Everyone deserves a second chance. For example, those who have got caught cheating on a test once shouldn't be held back from being accepted. In addition to this, someone who has does it contiuously or copied word for word on a big project should. Behavioral issues should be treated the same, one fight shouldn't be held against but major issues such as bringing weapons to school and such should. Criminal behavior should be held, and academic honesty are only being tested for the rights of the individual applicant and others.
i do not really agree with this. To me i think it is just a way to try and make a good image and impression to others. They ask about a students past but what about the students already in the school? The schools worry about what a student did but most likely will not do again. The schools should worry about what is going on inside their own walls on their campus. For example students who do drugs and students who beat up others in a chronic matter WHICH triggers events such as Virginia Tech.
The article says how the high schools are asking colleges to look at the students' criminal recordsres and this is something I disagree with. I personally know many kids with really good grades, that do good in school, are involved in school and still have a criminal record. I don't think that students should let this part of their lives effect there school careers. If colleges start looking at criminal records then I think that a lot of very smart kids will have less advantages. If students want to start fresh in school it would be hard for them because of there pasts, so basically they would have to live in the past. This can hurt a child's furture. I think that if students are doing good in school, what they do outside of school shouldn't really matter.
I think that it is important to know what to do before you do it. It is also important to know what you want to do in college also because it is going to be a part of your future, and the way you would want to live and what you want to do.
this article made me grasp a better understanding of why a students background is often questioned. its not saying they will judge you if you've made some mistakes, its saying they want to learn more about you &help fit your needs. for example, they said you can write an essay explaining how you have changed from then till now, and how you have grown to becoming a stronger person. the colleges want you to be completely honest &open with them, because just that is showing your effort. colleges also have "the need to know about high school students' troubled pasts"(1). just like what Julie Moran, 17, said, i wouldn't want to be going to a school with troubled kids who may happen to put you in danger one day.
this article can be an arguement but some of the information clearly shows in how colleges are feeling with bad behavior. in the article it said "less than a quarter of high school disclose information to colleges" maening if kids or high school students don't get their act together their future life will not be as expcted. to what i have seen and read some counselors will look at your behavior from high school and then tell the college in how you been doing. in showing in how you been doing can affect if a college accepts you or not. so now that i have read this article i have seen that many colleges fear in something like the Virginia Tech and maybe that is why they want to see each students behavior record.
i dont think they should look at wat you've done in the past, mostly because i have been sent to the office more than once.that would mean i probably wouldnt get into a college. and jus because you have done something in the past doeant mean u havent changed in the past years. so i dont like wat they are donig
i dont think they should look at wat you've done in the past, mostly because i have been sent to the office more than once.that would mean i probably wouldnt get into a college. and jus because you have done something in the past doeant mean u havent changed in the past years. so i dont like wat they are donig
i dont agree with the solution is to this.your high school behavoir record shouldnt be viewed by colleges when allplying because the mistakes that were made in high school were back when the student was most likely a feshman or sophomore, and now being a senior in high school they would most likely be more mature and not bring that behavior to a college campus.
I think this article is great for all collages because they need to know what they new applicent is inside and out. They do this collages will be better across the United States.
i think its good that colleges check into students behavior before accepting them because they would be representing that school and they wouldnt want anybody representing them the wrong way. However, i dont hink its right that colleges dont allow certin students in because of their pasts. People make mistakes and we all have bad judgement sometimes, so i dont think the colleges can blame us for that. Unless, it was a very serious crime; then thats understandable. But maybe now the people who did make the bad choices in their pasts are trying to start new lives and move on. And if colleges dont accept them, its going to be hard to start over.
I think there doing a good job because if they recrute people that havnt done anything in terms of getting intouble with the law and at school. It creates a way better enviorment. To be honest colleges should look at this stuff from the very begging because it creates an amazing learning envierment.
I think it is a good idea for colleges to look at kids disciplinary records. However if a kid does a have a very bad record in the beginning of his high school years, and changed a lot in the later years I think his record should not effect how colleges think about some kids.
I don't think this is good that the college application ask the questions that is about do you did something bad in your high school years, this is because if the student really did something wrong, but this does not mean that he will be the same in his whole life. He might feel shame about what he did and change, so I don't agree to the colleges who make such questions.
i think it's a good idea that colleges check if you have a criminal record/background because all kids/adults want to feel safe in school. but i also agree with the kids and school officials who think that the students will be judged by the schools. all people don't like being judged, especially by a college you really want to get into. but still, it is good, just to be sure, that colleges do have school discipline records.
When colloges look through your record and ask what you've done in highschool if you went to the deans office a lot etc. they make your chance of getting into college even harder becuse all that kid messing around in highschool is going to mess you up but that shouldnt stop you from getting an education you just have to work harder to get accpeted make up for all the bad things you made.
Its fine to check the backgrounds of students but it shouldnt determin if they get in or not.
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i think that this college is good because people can work togther and build a good characteric
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